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djreiswig wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:52 pm Thanks. I kinda played with simplify. Had to adjust down to .005, but it looks pretty good. Working on the text now. Ill post when I get it finished.
What do you think would be a "friend" price to cut one of these designs out? 16ga HR, about 30" wide. Just cleanup, no finishing.
Probably materials + a six pack of your favorite beverage for a friend. Some say to just double the materials cost.
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Thanks. How did you get it fixed? I want to try and do it myself I.
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I opened your file with Inkscape and exported as dxf and cleaned it up with Design Edge. It took several minutes to do. When I opened you file with Inkscape, this is what it looks like. It's sort of messed up, and I don't have the expertise with Inkscape to fix it. Perhaps Rokcrler will have a better idea how to attack it.
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Re: Infinity Heart

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Ahh. I probably should look at it in normal mode. I think it's a difference issue. That's what happened with the first drawing rockcrlr helped me with.
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You may be able to export as dxf or save as svg and open with SheetCam just fine. When I open it with Design Edge, those irregularities don't show up. But I did try CorelDraw and they are there. Don't see them with LightBurn. But somehow the file got corrupted because when finished it should look like the svg I posted.

But I spent about an hour trying to fix it with Inkscape. It was a no-go. I looked at the previous screen shots from Rokcrwler and still couldn't get it to work. I could have done it with node editing in Inkscape as I showed you before, but that's not what you were after. And I thought you were looking for a finished file. I think you've presented two or three to your friend, and not sure which he likes.

When all else fails, I take screen shot of the Inkscape file in outline mode, and then convert to jpeg with Paint.net and then import to Inkscape and auto trace (Path, trace bitmap). This has saved me before when the files were corrupted..

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If you post the original file you started with before doing the text and adding it to the heart, then I would be interested to take a look. As I said, I am not very proficient with Inkscape, but am trying to learn. I am also trying to learn CorelDraw. Justin has some great tutorials in that category, and his work has motivated me to proceed. I am spoiled using Design Edge, but there are some things that Inkscape will do that are not possible with Design Edge. So it is good to learn different programs and different approaches to try to solve some of these problems.

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You're getting closer!!! Keep it up!
All of your objects must be closed, I know it seems logical and easier to delete nodes and open the paths, but it creates issues.
When you open the paths by removing nodes, you'll have to do it to both objects you are trying to Union but you'll have to select the nodes and click join nodes.
The date was still a group, you have to ungroup and union to one object or union each individual object (number, dot)

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I will check out your video.
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ROKCRLER wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:52 am You're getting closer!!! Keep it up!
All of your objects must be closed, I know it seems logical and easier to delete nodes and open the paths, but it creates issues.
When you open the paths by removing nodes, you'll have to do it to both objects you are trying to Union but you'll have to select the nodes and click join nodes.
The date was still a group, you have to ungroup and union to one object or union each individual object (number, dot)

See if this helps.

https://youtu.be/9AKsisEqmu0
I watched your video. I don't have sound, and cc is not available. My question is:
how did you go from this.jpg
to this.jpg
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Re: Infinity Heart

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You make it looks so simple.:roll:
I think I need to work in normal view so I can see the objects. And it looks like difference is the way to remove parts of an object to make sure it stays closed. I'll look into it some more.
Yes, as David asked. How did you get the original heart without the names. I had trouble with this also.
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Thanks for your video. I still don't understand how you got from the starting point with the file as opened with Inkscape to the point you started at in your video. Maybe we just need to start with a simpler example.
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Rokcrler - How did you move the names away from the original file without dragging the lines with them? I messed around with the nodes and got them looking pretty good, but this is probably not necessary if they are moved correctly to begin with.
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You have to do the same to the names and possibly date as segments were deleted in the file given.
Play connect the dots with the bezier tool and adjust the arcs. Select both nodes you want to join and press join node button.
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"Dave" also has open lines that need to be joined, thats why it shows the funky triangle.
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Thanks! I will look this over. I had thought that using the combine tool would join all the nodes for a given component, but I guess they are two different things. I had always just drawn the connecting lines using the Bezier tool, then combined all and didn't seem to have any problems. Maybe this was because I was always working in outline mode. When I saved the file and opened it with Design Edge, it always seemed fine. But Design Edge has a "link/join" tool that I always use to join all the discrete intersections. I will have to try looking at the same files with Design Edge and CorelDraw after editing to see how they look. I don't use SheetCam, so I don't know how it will treat these different formats from Inkscape. Lots of fun here!
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Each file is different. I used the provided file which was already split so i had to do thing a bit different on this on. Normally when an object is already combined, you can add the, in this case, names and dates.
Again, this is how i did this file, but other folks might have a different method for the same... it like do you spread the peanut butter first or the jam? :HaHa
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Thanks! I think I've got it now. My main takeaway from this exercise is as follows.

1. The proper use of the "Join Selected Nodes" tool.
2. When in Normal display mode, the extraneous shapes or lines in the image indicate that there is a problem with either nodes which are not joined or open paths.

I previously did not know that the "Join Selected Nodes" tool needed to be used when adding in new path segments. I somehow thought that the "Combine" tool accomplished the same thing. I have been learning Inkscape by "trial and error", and have certainly made my fair share of errors along the way. So this is a great learning experience for me personally.

Here is my result.
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I also saved as dxf and opened with Design Edge (as I always do).
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success 3.jpg
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This is "par for the course" with Inkscape files as well as others. I'm pretty sure they will cut fine when opened with SheetCam, but there have been instances in the past where some with high node counts have caused problems in SheetCam for some other members. For those without Design Edge, these files from Inkscape can be imported to LightBurn and are automatically linked/joined upon export.

Thanks to Rocrwler for your invaluable help with this one. Very much appreciated!
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And exported from Design Edge after linking paths.
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And exported from Design Edge after linking and smoothing.
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Glad to help!
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Something I learned is adding things can be done in other ways then just on a line's edge. Which is very helpful to change the appearances of a project. :Like
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It turned out really good. I think he will be happy. Thanks to everyone for the help.
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Nicely done!
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I used your file. I like how you connected the names better than how I did it.
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That looks great! Nice work.
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Another tip, if you’re having trouble with doing a union after you’ve converted text to a path (highlight text, click “object to path”) do the following:
1.Change text to path (shift+ctrl+c)
2.select your text that is now a path, then click object: ungroup(shift+ctrl+g)
3. Click union
4. Move your text onto the path that you’re trying to join it to, highlight both, then select union again.
If you’re trying to cut the word out of a shape (difference), then repeat all of the above steps except #4. Instead move your text over the path you’re trying to cut the text out of, highlight both, then select difference.
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