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by tinspark » Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:27 pm
FabLab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:09 pm
N2 Welding wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:08 pm
Ok math wizzard. thank you for the info, I'm wanting a cheat sheet not a lesson on how to calculate it out with a math equation. I know there has got to be one out there somewhere.
I am truly sorry about that, I was just trying to help, I promise you I will not make that mistake again.
Dont worry about that, man. He can figure his own cheat sheet out .
Sounds a little self entitled!!
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by N2 Welding » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:38 pm
FabLab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:09 pm
N2 Welding wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:08 pm
Ok math wizzard. thank you for the info, I'm wanting a cheat sheet not a lesson on how to calculate it out with a math equation. I know there has got to be one out there somewhere.
I am truly sorry about that, I was just trying to help, I promise you I will not make that mistake again.
No no no don’t stop offering excellent advice

I do appreciate it very much. At the time I did not understand why you were giving me the math equation. Honestly I am not good at math when it comes to certain formulas and my inquiry was not worded properly. You provided the exact answer to the question I had originally asked. I’m truly sorry if I came off as a turd head in my reply to your help. My intention was being funny but I can see how it was not funny. Thank you by the way. I appreciate any and all advice given, even when it’s over my head and ability to comprehend at the moment. Thank you for understanding. That was not the first time I did not word my question properly and it probably won’t be the last. I do understand if you no longer wish to offer your advice though. No hard feelings.
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by N2 Welding » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:43 pm
tinspark wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:27 pm
Sounds a little self entitled!!
Not really, more like clueless and trying to figure this stuff out. Sorry if I offended anyone :/
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by adbuch » Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:15 am
I don't know of any "cheat sheets" here on this forum, or elsewhere for that matter. As others have mentioned, it is easy enough to simply calculate the weight and/or cost per sheet. If I personally needed this information on a regular basis, I would make my own "cheat sheet" for the sizes and thicknesses I use.
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by N2 Welding » Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:57 am
I’ll print out some pages from the links already provided as I was wanting to be able to measure materials at the recycling yard to quickly assess the weight to calculate the cost of the materials at $.50 / lbs.
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by tinspark » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:07 pm
N2 Welding wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:57 am
I’ll print out some pages from the links already provided as I was wanting to be able to measure materials at the recycling yard to quickly assess the weight to calculate the cost of the materials at $.50 / lbs.
That’s what I do with my digital fish scale that has a vice grip attached to it.
I zero it in after attaching my vice grip..
But will not work as well on large parts or anything too heavy to lift
Since you say >50 cents per poundI
Weight x .50cents makes it about as easy as it gets
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by tinspark » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:08 pm
tinspark wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:07 pm
N2 Welding wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:57 am
I’ll print out some pages from the links already provided as I was wanting to be able to measure materials at the recycling yard to quickly assess the weight to calculate the cost of the materials at $.50 / lbs.
That’s what I do with my digital fish scale that has a vice grip attached to it.
I zero it in after attaching my vice grip..
Grab the metal with the vice grip and get the weight
Since you say >50 cents per poundI
Weight x .50cents makes it about as easy as it gets
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by N2 Welding » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:46 pm
Yeah most of the materials probably will to big to weigh on a hand held scale. Some of the plate materials I’d most likely need their help loading on the trailer with their equipment or I’d have to get some type of crane set up for handling materials on the trailer then again in my garage.
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by tinspark » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:12 am
N2 Welding wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:46 pm
Yeah most of the materials probably will to big to weigh on a hand held scale. Some of the plate materials I’d most likely need their help loading on the trailer with their equipment or I’d have to get some type of crane set up for handling materials on the trailer then again in my garage.
So David is on the right track with the weight book idea. One of our local suppliers puts a pretty good one out that I have used many times
Here is a link,
https://valleyiron.com/wp-content/uploa ... _5x9_1.pdf
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by N2 Welding » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:42 am
tinspark wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:12 am
N2 Welding wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:46 pm
Yeah most of the materials probably will to big to weigh on a hand held scale. Some of the plate materials I’d most likely need their help loading on the trailer with their equipment or I’d have to get some type of crane set up for handling materials on the trailer then again in my garage.
So David is on the right track with the weight book idea. One of our local suppliers puts a pretty good one out that I have used many times
Here is a link,
https://valleyiron.com/wp-content/uploa ... _5x9_1.pdf
Thank you

lots of info in that link and probably a place I’ll want to consider for future reference on new steel purchases.
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by tinspark » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:53 pm
20 ga. P&O mild steel Cold rolled
48x96 $45 per sheet..
Getting better!!
Needed to make some light gauge z-clips today
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by Retro » Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:52 pm
I bought this week some sheets:
1,5 mm DC01 2000x1000 per sheet 37,44 €
2,0 mm DC01 2000x1000 per sheet 49,92 €
3 mm S235JR 2000x1000 per sheet 81,12 €
8 mm S355MC 2000x1000 per sheet 199,68 €
The Price lays between 1,56 and 1,69 per kilo for sheetmetal, 2,49 for 6mm round stock.
Prices in bavaria.
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by Joe Jones » Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:33 pm
Hmmm... I haven't prices steel in the USA since 2019, so I don't know what to say here. I don't even know what currency symbol you are using.

so I cannot convert it into U.S. Dollars for comparison. Then again, our money will soon be worthless, so ...
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by djreiswig » Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:48 pm
Joe Jones wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:33 pm
Hmmm... I haven't prices steel in the USA since 2019, so I don't know what to say here. I don't even know what currency symbol you are using.

so I cannot convert it into U.S. Dollars for comparison. Then again, our money will soon be worthless, so ...
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Bavaria, I believe that would be the Euro.
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by Joe Jones » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:20 am
djreiswig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:48 pm
Bavaria, I believe that would be the Euro.
1€ = $1.06USD as of today
I weep for America.
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by Jason@bc » Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:59 pm
I just pulled the trigger on a batch of plate, 75 sheets of 1/2'' mild steel plate, 4' x 8' in size, for $.68 a lb, I don't think it'll drop much lower than this.
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by Joe Jones » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:09 pm
Jason@bc wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:59 pm
I just pulled the trigger on a batch of plate, 75 sheets of 1/2'' mild steel plate, 4' x 8' in size, for $.68 a lb, I don't think it'll drop much lower than this.
What do you do with 75 sheets of 1/2" material? Build TRAINS?!
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by N2 Welding » Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:27 am
Jason@bc wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:59 pm
I just pulled the trigger on a batch of plate, 75 sheets of 1/2'' mild steel plate, 4' x 8' in size, for $.68 a lb, I don't think it'll drop much lower than this.
That’s like having money in the bank. Stock up while you can

. Same thing with wood for wood workers. Buy in bulk, save money and time by not having to make several trips or pay several different shipments for delivery.
That is some pretty heavy sheets to be stocking up on.
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by martyy » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:58 am
Mild Steel = precious metal
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by Joe Jones » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:18 am
martyy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:58 am
Mild Steel = precious metal
I believe the precious metals for 2023 will be brass and lead.
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by N2 Welding » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:17 am
Joe Jones wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:18 am
martyy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:58 am
Mild Steel = precious metal
I believe the precious metals for 2023 will be brass and lead.
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by Jason@bc » Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:47 pm
Joe Jones wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:09 pm
Jason@bc wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:59 pm
I just pulled the trigger on a batch of plate, 75 sheets of 1/2'' mild steel plate, 4' x 8' in size, for $.68 a lb, I don't think it'll drop much lower than this.
What do you do with 75 sheets of 1/2" material? Build TRAINS?!
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I build helixes for welding onto screw-piles. Most are 24'' dia going onto 5 1/2'' and/or 7'' pipe, I bought 100 sheets just before covid hit, at $.46 a lb,
those are long gone.
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by Oakleysenterprise » Thu May 25, 2023 9:31 pm
Rick where in NC do you get yours at if you don't mind me asking
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by adbuch » Fri May 26, 2023 1:13 am
Jason@bc wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:47 pm
Joe Jones wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:09 pm
Jason@bc wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:59 pm
I just pulled the trigger on a batch of plate, 75 sheets of 1/2'' mild steel plate, 4' x 8' in size, for $.68 a lb, I don't think it'll drop much lower than this.
What do you do with 75 sheets of 1/2" material? Build TRAINS?!
Joe
I build helixes for welding onto screw-piles. Most are 24'' dia going onto 5 1/2'' and/or 7'' pipe, I bought 100 sheets just before covid hit, at $.46 a lb,
those are long gone.
That seems like a great price per pound! These days, most everything has gone up in price. I generally only buy several sheets at a time (as I need them), but then I am not in the cnc plasma cutting business. I think that those that are typically just pass the price increase right along to the customers.
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by rdj357 » Fri May 26, 2023 7:06 am
Exactly David. I’ve never understood all the doom and gloom. I’m a business guy, adjust the price and go on. If you’re in a contract and you didn’t lock in your material costs then shame on you. If it is a long-term contract and it doesn’t have any verbiage about material cost increase then shame on you. We take on these risks as business owners. That’s why there is a profitable reward if we make the mark. Guaranteed paychecks come from working for someone else or inheriting stuff.