HypHyDef wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:28 pm
SegoMan DeSigns wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:07 pm
rdj357 looking forward to your review.
Like posted above why is a 65 amp consumable being used on thin sheet metal hand or otherwise? Hello Heat Warp.
It would appear Hypertherm is using esoteric buzz words like "influencers" to market to the "Me"crowd while ignoring the bulk of their user base. Where is the cost per cut breakdown on the old vs the new? By my numbers it is going to be an expensive system to run. (You did not respond to that - why?)
This is 3/4 plate that was cut at 85 Amps on the Duramax system, I did all of that and whole lot more on $10 worth of consumables
SegoMan DeSigns, You seem to be upset and looking for reasons to start an argument. I'm not sure why but let me try and clear this up. We have been using "influencers" as well as job shops, large scale manufactuers and businesses across many industries to help us test these systems. As you can imagine, the ones that have the ability to turn around and give their thoughts on the system the quickest are the ones who are in smaller shops and those who cater to social media. We have not "ignored the bulk of our user base" far from it. We respect and value all of our users and it's unfortunate that we can not make every person happy all the time. As more and more data comes out about our new SYNC systems you and every other business owner or priviate citizen will have the ability to make decisions on what systems you want to use. We certainly hope that you will be enjoying the Duramax torch and consumables for the next decade or more until you have to decide. As soon as i have more direct data to answer your questions I will absolutely post them here for you.
Randy,
I'm sorry but what I see from you is what I often see from politicians. They dodge the very important questions while focusing on trying to make the other party look bad.
Personally, so far all I see is "printer cartridge revenue", and Hypertherm taking the choice away from the customer to use EITHER the cartridge system or use a torch that takes individual consumables.
Segoman mentioned something very important, which you seem to have ignored, i.e.
"Where is the cost per cut breakdown on the old vs the new?" That's exactly the type of thing I would like to know too.
And of course that's assuming everything goes perfectly with the cutting. A glitch in the system and the torch dives and the nozzle gets contaminated, change the cartridge. A blob of piercing slag is contacted and the nozzle is contaminated, etc, etc, new cartridge.
Drag nozzles are pretty foolproof as you can't accidentally touch the nozzle on flat sheet.
All I've ever heard about the Duramax torches is reduced consumables costs and increased cut life and quality. Segoman backed that up with the example of what he cut on a $10 nozzle. You need to expect there's going to be some reaction to what so far appears to be a new system that is going to cost heaps more to run.
If you can give some Duramax vs cartridge cut cost comparisons that will go a long way to shutting up people like myself and Segoman. We just want to see all the reasons why it makes sense to move to the expensive throw away cartridge system. Yes I know we can move to another manufacturer but many of us don't want to >> if << you can prove the cartridge system will not cost any more to run, or it has some other benefits that make the increased cost worthwhile. Dumb operators and "convenience" are nothing that personally would sway my decision, because if they can't change a nozzle without screwing it up, how are they going to be able to do anything else.
You are the Hypertherm rep. and should look at the hard questions as an opportunity to sell the systems
