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Re: Plasma Pricing app...

Postby davek0974 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:44 am

motoguy wrote:Thanks!


All done, seems a good addition.

I have also tidied up the save/update function and a few other tweaks.

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Re: Plasma Pricing app...

Postby tnbndr » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:20 am

Looks good!
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Re: Plasma Pricing app...

Postby AdrianH » Thu May 18, 2017 3:52 pm

Just to say thanks Dave for the application (Program)!

I downloaded it yesterday and must admit to struggling a lot with it to get it to run under Windows 10. main issues have been with the file path to where it decides to store it's working files, but got it working and found it was miles out. Finally sorted by manually entering in the files direct £ and cm units (2 hours later, I hate new windows).

Anyway I have also installed it on my Linux desktop under wine which is a windows simulator and I have it working within 10 minutes of starting.

So now to get used to the program and see how it fits for me.

Thanks again

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Re: Plasma Pricing app...

Postby davek0974 » Thu May 18, 2017 3:58 pm

Excellent, thanks for the update.

I do apologise to all for the slightly out of date installer - i learnt Visual Basic many many years ago and just stuck with it, i'm too old to start afresh with a new language now, not got the time or the inclination TBH :)

Windows 10 really does bend things but it generally works in the end, great you got it going on Linux too :)

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Re: Plasma Pricing app...

Postby matze-atze-sch » Sat May 20, 2017 4:55 am

Hey Adrian,

can you tell us how you get it to run under Windows 10?

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Re: Plasma Pricing app...

Postby AdrianH » Sat May 20, 2017 6:54 am

matze-atze-sch wrote:Hey Adrian,

can you tell us how you get it to run under Windows 10?

Best regards
Marcel


With about 2 hours of struggle, but here goes.

Run the installer as Dave has set out and then unzip the update and install that over the installed executable.

The above should!!! be in C:\Program Files(x86)\Plasma Estimator\

Now as I run Sheetcam I have placed a few directories in my documents for this and for sheetcam to output files, so I have the following folders:
C:\Users\Adrian\Documents\Sheetcam\Gcode
C:\Users\Adrian\Documents\Sheetcam\Jobs
C:\Users\Adrian\Documents\Sheetcam\Machine
C:\Users\Adrian\Documents\Sheetcam\Materials
C:\Users\Adrian\Documents\Sheetcam\Operations
C:\Users\Adrian\Documents\Sheetcam\Parts
C:\Users\Adrian\Documents\Sheetcam\Posts
C:\Users\Adrian\Documents\Sheetcam\Project Group
C:\Users\Adrian\Documents\Sheetcam\Reports
C:\Users\Adrian\Documents\Sheetcam\Tools

Some of the above are used from Sheetcam, i.e. where I put my own posts for Sheetcam to use, Tools for my own plasma tools. Reports where Sheetcam output it's reports. etc.

Some I made up for plasma estimator.

setup.png


In the setup for Plasma estimator I have the file locations as above.

I have also created a shortcut folder on the desktop point to :
C:\Users\Adrian\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\program Files (x86)\Plasma estimator v3

That way I could change the files directly.

One problem I had took a while to solve and that was the units were never correct until I changed 'file system units.txt' to be in my case
"£"
"cm"

After that the output started to become more realistic.

I hope the idea helps, I am struggling to determine for myself what is a reasonable rate when I only do this as a hobby what one charges in the UK for a pierce grinding dross off etc (yes I have dross as hobby setup and not Hypertherm etc). I get asked occasionally to cut things out and if I have the steel I will, but sometimes I do not wish to be under-valued and on the other hand do not wish to be too expensive to put friends off. The idea is if I can put the info in the program it gives a justification to reasonable costs.


Anyway have a play with the above see if it works and gets Daves program working on more computers, I have not played a lot with it on windos as I got it to run in Linux.

Adrian

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Re: Plasma Pricing app...

Postby davek0974 » Sat May 20, 2017 7:44 am

Thanks for that Adrian, it all helps as i do not have Win10 to play with here :)

As for rates, don't undersell yourself just because its a hobby. I would suggest two rates, a 'friends' rate and a 'shop' rate, both are below commercial rates but maybe go with something like £25 & £50 per hour respectively, materials - always double the cost to cover handling, stacking, storing, loading and unloading your table and to cover some of the cost in tidying up - dross etc, I have Hypertherm and still get dross, it goes with the job i think especially on arty stuff, straight cuts are usually ok.


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