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new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:02 pm
by acourtjester
Finished another DIY tool for my shop, I wanted to made some large steel caster type wheels for a cart. So I built a Plate Roller I think its called a pyramid type 3 rollers. I made the roller from 2 DOM tubes telescoped on a 1" shaft. It has a 20 Ton bottle jack and chain drive for the 2 bottom rollers. The top roller is not driven and can be removed easily if needed. I don't think I would want to roll more then 1/4" steel and it is 13" wide. I test rolled a 1/4" X 2" and a 1/4" X 9" as shown in the pictures. The 2" was rolled to a ID of 5.5". If I were to roll and fire pit It would be done in 2 pieces rolled to 180 degrees. In the pictures you can see the short straight ends were the roll stops the rolled part is nice a smooth.
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Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:17 pm
by little blue choo
VERY NICE!

Rick

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:39 pm
by gwind
Necessity is mother of invention. very nice!

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:39 am
by Capstone
Very impressive. Thanks.

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:21 am
by Bobcat320
Awesome! I have one on the drawing board but haven't been able to get to it yet...

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:46 am
by Capstone
I'm guessing the block bearings weren't cheap. McMaster-Carr? Do you mind posting a parts list of the off the shelf stuff you had to source?

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:05 am
by Sampson Jones
Nice !

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:32 pm
by acourtjester
Hi Sorry I did not see the request for parts info, I bought the bearing blocks, chain and sprockets from surplus center.
this is what I used but the second one would have been better to get closer.
https://www.surpluscenter.com/Brands/A- ... 5-16-P.axd
https://www.surpluscenter.com/New-Arriv ... 6-PA-S.axd
any other info need I can supply.

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:59 am
by oldironrep
Does anyone have any idea of what HP an electric motor would have to be to power this. I have a rotator cuff tear and this looks like it could be tough.

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:15 am
by acourtjester
I wanted a larger turning wheel for the plate roller so this is what I constructed. It is 1" square tube 11 Ga wall rolled into a 48" diameter from a 13.5 foot length. It took many passes through the roller to form and then I clamped the 2 ends and made one cut with my band saw to get a smooth joint.
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Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:58 am
by motoguy
Ok. I need a plate/tube roller...

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:29 pm
by acourtjester
I rolled some flat stock into wheel parts today the large ones are 1/4" X 2" and 10" in diameter and the small are 3/16" X 2" and 6" in diameter. I will be cutting the center parts in the morning. I rolled 2 halves then cut off the waste ends and welded them together. These are for a project I want to build, a rail road cart coffee table. :D
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Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:16 pm
by f_armer
I am planning on building a roller similar to yours, how did you determine how far apart your bottom rollers should be?
Yours seem to be fairly far apart, but some of the others I have seen online are much closer.
I am going to use 2-7/8" drill stem for my rollers, 35" long.
I'm wondering if I should just put them as close together as the pillow block bearings allow?

Do I really need the extra sprocket below? could I not wrap chain around just the 2 bottom roller sprockets? Or is it just for tightening the chain?

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:41 pm
by acourtjester
The closer the 2 bottom roller are the more force it takes to form the metal and also effects the amount of waste at both ends of the metal being formed. You can see that in the pictures above. I put the extra sprocket to be able to move the bottom rollers in or out if I wanted to (which I have not done) you could just loop around the sprockets I don't know if slop in the chain will cause a problem with the rolling action.
pictures show the finished larger wheels ( still need paint or powder coat) and one of the attaching brackets.
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Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:16 pm
by jaywjnt
Nice work

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:28 pm
by taberahkj
I'm thinking of building something similar. What's the best type of metal to build the rollers out of? Tubing, round rod stock, stainless, Chromoly, tool steel, etc?

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:44 pm
by acourtjester
I used DOM tubing from Speedy Metals.com they have true ID and OD dimension and you can order thick walls so no gaps when using one over another.
The attached image shows the 3 parts to each roller I think the OD is 2.250" This ended up with a solid roller.
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Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:48 pm
by acourtjester
My finished "Rail Road Luggage Cart" the reason I built the Plate roller.
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Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:50 pm
by Nacs Fab
acourtjester wrote:My finished "Rail Road Luggage Cart" the reason I built the Plate roller.


That is some awesome work! I think I am going to start a roller project of my own and was looking at this thread. Did you press those stars into the metal? I have an idea of how you must have done it but that is a nice touch. Man, great work, im in awe.

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:03 pm
by acourtjester
Yes sir pressed them in to the metal and bent it to make corner guards for the cart. I cut the star out then enlarged the star and cut the outer part to press the inner star into it. I did smooth out the edges so it had an easy transition with out tearing the metal. :)
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Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:34 pm
by Bdalrymple
Teach High School metal Fabrication. Do you by chance have the plans for this roller that you can share with me?

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:45 am
by acourtjester
sure PM sent with email address :)

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:31 pm
by Plasma
Boy that is a great job you did on the plate roller. I to plan on building one for my shop. I've been looking for one on craigslist but haven't found one strong emough for what I want.
When you do find one they come with a pretty price.
I'm not too far from retirement and over the past years have been putting together a nice machine shop play shop. A good strong plate roller is what I need.
Is it possible to get some plans on that baby.

Plasma

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:49 pm
by acourtjester
PM sent Plasma

Re: new toy Plate Roller

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:32 pm
by acourtjester
Nacs Fab wrote:
acourtjester wrote:My finished "Rail Road Luggage Cart" the reason I built the Plate roller.


That is some awesome work! I think I am going to start a roller project of my own and was looking at this thread. Did you press those stars into the metal? I have an idea of how you must have done it but that is a nice touch. Man, great work, im in awe.


Hi Nacs Fab
PM sent your inbox is full my PM stuck in out box :lol: