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Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby mtbitt » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:52 pm

Hopefully I posted this in the correct place. I have been reading, and getting more confused.

I have an auto repair shop, and would like to expand my horizons.

Naturally, cost is an issue. I did find a place in Troy Ohio that makes and sells cnc plasma tables. Has anyone heard of them? It is about 4 hours from me, so it is possible for me to pick up, instead of having to have shipped.

There was a place listed in Chambersburg PA that I found on Craigslist, now I cannot locate, I was out of town and did not write the phone number down,

Any suggestions are welcomed. I am thinking of a ex4 table but may consider going 4x8 if that would be a big advantage.

Thank You!

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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby tnbndr » Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:52 am

Check out LDR Motion Systems, they are in Potsdam, NY. I drove there from WI to pick up my table and have no regrets.

The suggestions you have posted may be viable working options and cheap, but I have never heard of either one and been on this forum for quite a while.
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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby mtbitt » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:48 pm

Thanks, I will check them out.

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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby Doc Hollywood » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:16 pm

I don't want to say not to buy from a little start up company, (they were all little start ups once) but if anything they have is propitiatory and the company goes tits up on you, it can be a big problem. I like my ldr, they have a good reputation, and the componentry is used by several manufacturers.

You could build one, which has its pluses and minuses....but if cutting metal is the goal then just buy a table. If you want a hobby that will drain your patience and time, by all means build a cnc table. I prefer to use the expertise of others when possible, it gets me toward the goal quicker.

Just my .02, good luck!

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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby motoguy » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:10 am

I picked up my (first) table from Matt at Bull tear/Starlab earlier this week. I couldn't be more satisfied with my supplier choice. Matt has been hugely helpful, friendly, knowledgeable and patient through this process. He spent the whole day with me at his shop, teaching me the ropes and going over any questions I had.

He had ~5 other tables there, in various sizes and states of construction. His employees were busy bees, and he kept them busy. His time is obviously in demand, yet he spent the entire day with me, to make sure I was not only 100% satisfied with my purchase, but comfortable with it's operation as well.

Speaking of shop...wow. His capabilities are awesome. Huge CNC bridge mill, several CNC machining centers, CNC lathes, manual equipment, industry level software (Solidworks, Mastercam, FEA software, etc). It made me feel good to know that my table (the plasma tables) are the *least* precise machines he's used to dealing with. Not the feeling of some guy in a garage bolting together extruded aluminum beams from China.

He's in MN (was a 10 hour one-way drive for me to get my table). I was sure I made the right choice after reading about his tables, satisfied customers, and customer support. Seeing the actual engineering/manufacturing capabilities only reaffirmed my choice.
Bulltear 6x12 w/ Proton Z axis & watertable
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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby Doc Hollywood » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:38 pm

motoguy wrote:I picked up my (first) table from Matt at Bull tear/Starlab earlier this week. I couldn't be more satisfied with my supplier choice. Matt has been hugely helpful, friendly, knowledgeable and patient through this process. He spent the whole day with me at his shop, teaching me the ropes and going over any questions I had.

He had ~5 other tables there, in various sizes and states of construction. His employees were busy bees, and he kept them busy. His time is obviously in demand, yet he spent the entire day with me, to make sure I was not only 100% satisfied with my purchase, but comfortable with it's operation as well.

Speaking of shop...wow. His capabilities are awesome. Huge CNC bridge mill, several CNC machining centers, CNC lathes, manual equipment, industry level software (Solidworks, Mastercam, FEA software, etc). It made me feel good to know that my table (the plasma tables) are the *least* precise machines he's used to dealing with. Not the feeling of some guy in a garage bolting together extruded aluminum beams from China.

He's in MN (was a 10 hour one-way drive for me to get my table). I was sure I made the right choice after reading about his tables, satisfied customers, and customer support. Seeing the actual engineering/manufacturing capabilities only reaffirmed my choice.


Very good info on Starlab. Thank you for posting, we don't hear a giant amount on spider about them.
Cheers!

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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby illusivedf » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:39 pm

Dynatorch been running one since 2006 with a Hypertherm Plasma.
Owner at Illusive Design & Fabrications
http://www.illusivefabrications.com
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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby rikduk » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:05 pm

+1 on Bulltear/Starlab!
Had mine for 2 years now with 130amp Hypertherm

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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby sr guy » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:28 am

I just got my LDR and I am very happy with the table. Price point was awesome great service and air bladder table.
LDR 4x8 w scribe :D
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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby tnbndr » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:08 am

sr guy wrote:I just got my LDR and I am very happy with the table. Price point was awesome great service and air bladder table.

Technically not a "bladder", there is no physical bladder involved just a uniquely designed air pressurized water tank.
Dennis
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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby sr guy » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:43 am

Yea sorry I know its not a true air bladder but an air adjustable water level tank that has no pump so it makes finding drops and keeping water evaporation down very easy.
LDR 4x8 w scribe :D
Miller syncrowave 250
Hobart ironman 230
Baliegh tn 250
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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby motoguy » Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:15 am

The air bladder/water height system of LDR was a big draw for me. I have since found that it's pretty easy to add this type of system to an existing table. I'll be picking up some blue 55 gallon plastic barrels tomorrow, and building a system for my Bulltear. My table has a 2” NPT drain, so it should fill very quickly with only few PSI of air supply.

My 6x12 table holds 180 gallons or so, if I remember correctly. It's located in my garage, right next to the mill. I don't want the mill's ways exposed to that much moisture in an enclosed space, so I wanted to be able to drain the table at will. Just something to keep in mind.
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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby Diesel » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:54 pm

+1 on the LDR table!

Dan and his brother were able to make a custom setup for my needs and they nailed it.
I spent a LOT of time researching my options including DIY and literally all of the commercially available units.

You won't find a better built table with all of the features at the price point they offer...period.
Welded heavy steel frame - not a bolt-together piece.

Not to mention - his pricing is all upfront on the website. ZERO sales pressure too...no sales people calling you after you submit an online form just looking for pricing info.

I too drove from WI all the way to Potsdam, NY (cool little college town, BTW) to pick it up and get some training.

Cheers,

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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby mtbitt » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:21 am

Thank you all for the responses! When I pull the trigger, I will most likely buy one instead of building. I would love to build my own, but as I may have stated earlier, I don't need anymore half done crap sitting around.

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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby Jbearden » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:58 pm

I'm dumb to this form posting so spare me the compliments ! I would like to have a 4x4 machine like the burntable with the router and engraver but just not theirs. Heard lots of bad stuff on it. Any help or guidance would be helpful. Thanks

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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby flimmy » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:23 pm

Check out Delusional Designs CNC tables , I have one of the 4x4 tables and love it. Works great and the customer support is great. No problems with the table all the help has been with my lack of knowledge on the software or a setting.

http://www.delusionaldesignscnc.com/sto ... ducts.html

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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby Jaked937 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:15 pm

I just bought the Detrick Designs table that is made in Troy,Ohio. His table looks to be nice quality and he's a super nice guy for $6000 for the table that comes with everything to make it work including the software I thought it was a good deal. I'm going to run a Hypertherm 65 with it.

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Re: Looking to get into CNC plasma

Postby motoguy » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:47 pm

Doc Hollywood wrote:Very good info on Starlab. Thank you for posting, we don't hear a giant amount on spider about them.
Cheers!


Matt seems to have changed that. He's a regular here, now!
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