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PlasmaCam Pricing

Postby Merica_Metal » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:58 pm

I'm a bit confused on the pricing of the PlasmaCam unit. I called and asked about a 4x4 table and they quoted me $7980.00 + shipping. Then I read I have to get all of these "extra" software packages to really do anything. Can anyone tell me what a fully complete unit cost? :roll:
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Re: PlasmaCam Pricing

Postby icmplasma85 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:29 am

Right around 15K will get you a 4x4 table, a Hypertherm plasma cutter, advanced design software, advanced machine control, and most importantly advanced height control. Do yourself a favor and do not buy a Plasmacam (or any table for that matter) without advanced height control (ohmic sensing). If money is tight at first you can do without the design and machine control upgrades, but you gotta have the advanced HC And don't do what I did and think, ehhh I can get by with the basic HC. You will not be happy with basic.
You will have to constantly zero out your Z axis manually by jogging the torch over to the cut area, lowering the torch shield to the top of the plate, open settings, and zero out the Z shift so that the software recognizes the torches physical location as the top of material. And Plasmacam's ohmic sensing works great. The table itself works great esp paired with a Hypertherm plasma cutter using fine cuts. And the advanced software is as close to perfect for designing and cutting parts and artistic drawings as you can get. Had mine 5 years and it still cuts great, extremely accurate and reliable.
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Re: PlasmaCam Pricing

Postby jimcolt » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:12 am

If you just ask for a quote for a 4 x 4 machine from Plasmacam....then you will get the price of the machine without the software upgrades. I suggest contacting sales and asking for pricing with each upgrade, and a description of what the upgrades offer. All of the upgrades are software upgrades, and can easily add $5k to the "stripped" machine quote you received.

I have been using a DHC2 4 x 4 from Plasmacam for over 12 years (great machine, excellent software), I have all upgrades except Nesting. I think you will find a properly equipped maxhine in the $12,500 range (no plasma), and worth every penny! Jim Colt

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Re: PlasmaCam Pricing

Postby RPM » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:17 pm

I have a Pcam that I have run for about 8-9 years and it has been good. Running the old 3.1 software which does everything I need it to do, perfectly. Looking at getting the 4x8 and talked to them about it all. Too many hidden cost and sales people are not up front with you at all. I can't run the software I have on a new machine. They won't sell me a new controller if I need one. Just putting this machine out of business. The new software only works with one computer, each additional seat as they call them is about another $1000.00. Check some of the horror stories of the new software. They are spending more time with software issues than they are making parts.

I won't be buying another Pcam, their greed will put them out of business. I am probably going to but a Trucut.

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Re: PlasmaCam Pricing

Postby Bobkovacs » Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:11 pm

There's plenty of comparable or better machines at 1/2 the cost of a loaded Plasmacam. I paid $6k for my 4x8 setup, and it does everything the Plasmacam machines does, without the concerns about bearing needing adjustment or wearing out from running up and down a painted steel tube.

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Re: PlasmaCam Pricing

Postby jimcolt » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:55 pm

I for one (a 12 year owner of a DHC2 Plasmacam) will disagree with you. I would agree that there are machines priced similarly to a Plasmacam that are built heavier duty than a Plasmacam, however the Plasmacam's integrated software (when the upgrades are purchased) are hard to beat. The CAD is not universal, it is designed for plasma cutting. The CAM is seamless....simply convert the CAD into a cut path and it is instantly done. The height control is almost transparent.....no arc voltage setting and auto calibration for consumable wear and speed changes.

I have all of the original bearings on my Plasmacam and there are no "bearing adjustments"....so I suspect Bobkovacs may not have used a Plasmacam!

In a perfect world I would get the Plasmacam software and height control on a heavy duty machine that was ready to cut (fume control included) with servo drives and at the same (or lower) price. Unfortunately that does not exist.

Just to mention, I have owned or built over 8 cnc plasma cutting machines over the last 30 years. I currently have 3 machines (3 different brands) in my home shop. All work well, each has its advantages and disadvantages. It is nice having so many choices!

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Bobkovacs wrote:There's plenty of comparable or better machines at 1/2 the cost of a loaded Plasmacam. I paid $6k for my 4x8 setup, and it does everything the Plasmacam machines does, without the concerns about bearing needing adjustment or wearing out from running up and down a painted steel tube.

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Re: PlasmaCam Pricing

Postby motoguy » Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:13 pm

jimcolt wrote:The height control is almost transparent.....no arc voltage setting and auto calibration for consumable wear and speed changes.


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Re: PlasmaCam Pricing

Postby rdj357 » Sun Jul 09, 2017 3:01 pm

I'm with Jim. The CAD/CAM being the same program with near seamless work back and forth is a huge plus. I cut 3/4 plate on my 5x10 so I'm not sure how much more 'heavy duty' I'd want it... lol I've seen some beautiful machines with open source stuff and will probably build a CNC router with that technology but I'll pay for it with revenue from the Pcam. :-) I'll echo the little to no maintenance troubles either.

Oh, and yes the CAM part of their software is pretty limited to plasma but I use the CAD to design many files for laser cutting with my co2 laser. With a kerf of .004" I'm designing a lot smaller details than plasma can produce with no problems.
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