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45xp or 65 xp

Postby leggman » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:45 pm

I will be buying a hypertherm in the near future and I am torn between a 45xp and a 65 xp. I have a 4 x 4 plasma table that I built myself and right now I don't see myself cutting anything very heavy. I would like to do signs and similar projects.
I am NOT a rich man so the thousand dollar difference is substantial.
Just wanting opinions. Thanks
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Re: 45xp or 65 xp

Postby acourtjester » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:03 pm

their wed site does not show a 65 XP I don't think they make one
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Re: 45xp or 65 xp

Postby leggman » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:00 pm

I stand corrected. Looks like the 45xp might be the winner

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Re: 45xp or 65 xp

Postby Brand X » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:24 pm

Was for me.. The 65 is a very nice machine.Had one, and now own a 45xp.. I have larger Victor, that will cover anything the 65 will do, but neither one will do what the 45XP can do with it's marking,low amp gouging.. Only downside is i keep looking for the on switch on the back of the machine.. 26 pound power supply is quite nice too..

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Re: 45xp or 65 xp

Postby jimcolt » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:39 am

Both systems use the same torch and consumable designs, so cut quality (at 45 amps or below) is identical.

The 65 will pierce and cut 5/8" all day long in a mechanized application and will edge start and cut 1-1/4" by hand. The 65 can operate on any input line voltage between 200 volts and 600 volts, single or 3 phase.

The 45 XP has newer technology that allows amperage settings as low as 10 amps, and has a set of marking consumables that are designed to be used as low as 10 amps....with either air or argon. It can pierce and cut 1/2" all day in a mechanized application and can edge start and sever to 1" with ease. It is smaller and lighter than the 65.The 45 XP is single phase only with input voltage between 200 volts and 240 volts.

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Re: 45xp or 65 xp

Postby Brand X » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:47 am

The 45XP also has low amp precision gouging available , but the 65 supports the flushcut consumables. two more difference's

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Re: 45xp or 65 xp

Postby Gamelord » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:40 am

85. go big or go home.
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Re: 45xp or 65 xp

Postby Brand X » Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:12 am

You really should put three phase in the shop, and go for a water-cooled setup. Then you will gain cut quality on .500 and above. Otherwise you are still playing with toys..The 45XP is newer tech,does thing the larger machines are not capable of. Save the $2000.00 and by a machine O/2 torch if you want to really go big..

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Re: 45xp or 65 xp

Postby jimcolt » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:30 pm

Brand X, The Flushcut consumables are recommended for the Powermax105 and 125 systems only. They will have issues with arc starting and arc transfer on the 85 and 65 amp systems. Jim Colt Hypertherm


Brand X wrote:The 45XP also has low amp precision gouging available , but the 65 supports the flushcut consumables. two more difference's

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Re: 45xp or 65 xp

Postby Brand X » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:07 pm

I was going by this info from Youtube..

https://youtu.be/Bu0x2SvbLRA?t=11m16s

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Re: 45xp or 65 xp

Postby jimcolt » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:57 am

Brandx, This video was made by a couple of the product managers before the Flushcut was released for sale. Ultimately engineering decided against the use on the 85 amp and smaller systems for the reasons I mentioned. It is virtually impossible to correct a YouTube video.....so there is a little confusion out there. I suspect that we will eventually develop Fluschut parts for the lower amp systems, however we do not recommend their use at this time. Sorry about that! Jim Colt

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Re: 45xp or 65 xp

Postby Brand X » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:32 pm

I figured the 45XP was out of the picture anyway, so no real loss to me.. I have the 15 degree torch, and the HYAcess consumables for it. Just tried it out today.. I also have the gouging nozzle too But did not get that far testing it.. Looks like I can get under a .250 pretty easy, and 3/16 should be in reach pretty easy..That's without damage to the other side of a plate when cutting a lug..You can get closer, but this is a straight on cut. It's a real good work around for the 45 to 85 amp machines.. Good stuff!

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