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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby tturanger » Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:58 pm

Imagine if the guy who originally posted the "Tattered Flag" could claim royalties...

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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby DARRYL21270 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:33 pm

kb3gun wrote:I would buy the dxf from him, then leave a negative review. (example: CD was blank and he refused to send a replacement) It used to be hard to get a negative removed. Not sure anymore.

I no longer buy on ebay because people would blackmale me for money back or they would leave a negative review.


Great idea but what i've decided to do instead is sell the same file(my file)for a lower price :)

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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby DARRYL21270 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:50 pm

I've decided to give the file away for free so here it is. I just saved everyone $8.99
Winged Seahorse.plt

winged seahorse1.jpg

winged seahorse.jpg

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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby wickedinhere » Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:01 am

I have a guy close to me who breaks copyright laws like its nothing. He does disney,harley,ford,chevy,mopar,harry potter,sports teams. He puts it all over his Facebook and also sells it in these flea market stores. Nothing is off limits to this guy i just shake my head and have to think that one day he is gonna pay the piper. I have had people send me pics of others work wanting me to copy it i just tell them to buy it from the original artist.

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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby DARRYL21270 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:17 pm

I had a woman contact me yesterday telling me how she saw my work at a local festival I did over the weekend and wanted to know if I could make her something she saw online. She said she would rather have someone local do it than buy it from somewhere else. I told her we would be happy to design something for her but aren't in the business of copying another artists work.

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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby EastCoastOrnamental » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:33 am

Brand new to the forum and the plasma world and would like to know what people think about this particular situation.

I found an octopus online (jpg photo) and I would like to trace it, edited it, then indexed it to cut for a customer. Is this theft in your eyes? I am new to this world and would like to operate ethically. It really didn't even cross my mind that it would be theft since I changed things and just basically used it as a base until I saw this thread. I'm guessing this is not an acceptable practice by the way this thread has gone. Please advise.

Sorry for the hijack, but since you were already in dialog so I figured it would be ok to ask here. Please delete if not appropriate.

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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby sunnybunny » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:26 pm

The world we live in now is not the World we grew up in.
Sorry for your loss.

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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby Scratch » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:08 am

If you post pics of it online, it's gonna get copied. That's all there is to it. This stuff we do is stupid easy to copy from a picture, We're all sitting at a computer, we see a cool design, we all "have" the software to do a trace... Now, keep in mind that not "all" of us have morals... and there are alot of us.

It's gonna happen. If you don't want it copied, don't post it online.

Take it as a compliment.
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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby bhamer62 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:35 am

Amen Scratch......well said

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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby Capstone » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:26 pm

If I see an object (not copyrighted logos or images like Mickey) and have to spend a good amount of time converting it from say a sculpture or painting or some other printed item, then go even further to the trouble to ensure it's a well designed metal item that looks good and will cut well, then there's a good case to be made for that being something that was fair use. I've done this with cars, animals, and plenty of illustrations, and I don't have any concerns. That said, if I spend all that time and money to create that item for sale, I'm kinda hesitant to share. Maybe that's not as magnanimous as others here, like Peechy, but I'd rather contribute in my own way to this community through tool tips, DIY projects for builds, and business insights. That's also why I pay $20 a year to support the forum for all it's different uses.

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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby Maniac » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:12 pm

It takes so little to change a few nodes around and then it is there design. The nature of the web. How many copy's of the mona lisa are there in the world.

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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby Peechy » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:19 pm

magnanimous had to look that one up I cant even pronounce it . I really am from the hicks ...;( I like the spider , Not much for population where I live and Business Is slow . I think that's why I like to share ideas when they come up, give someone else a chance to make some $. Bottom line I buy a file from Makecnc.com or anywhere else I use it for customers never share , If You pay for it don't share it , show some respect
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Re: Selling someone elses design

Postby nalin400m » Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:25 pm

I've spent over $37,000 since 2010 fighting legitimate intellectual property theft in court. Black and white/open shut stuff. Legal fees add up really quick, and at the end of the day, I will never sell that much of said stolen designs to be ahead.
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