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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Rodw » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:44 am

Mtw fdu wrote:Rodw

Can you show me your setup please?

Cheers.

Mtw fdu.


Hope this Photobucket image shows up for you. Its too big to upload here.
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2 relays bottom left are for Torch on and 5 volt signal to disable steppers on an estop.

Not sure how much this helps

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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby sphurley » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:56 am

The two on the DIN rail are push in units, the socket mounts to the DIN rail. Simple swap. those are not fully open contacts with the cover on them but there is likely very little current on the contacts. You might look and see if they are silver or gold contacts vs just copper.
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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Rodw » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:10 am

sphurley wrote:The two on the DIN rail are push in units, the socket mounts to the DIN rail. Simple swap. those are not fully open contacts with the cover on them but there is likely very little current on the contacts. You might look and see if they are silver or gold contacts vs just copper.


Exactly, nice and simple relay setup but its not the OP's hardware. You need to visit the first post to see his.

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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Mtw fdu » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:23 pm

Rodw

Cheers for that pic. It does look simple.

What first post are you referring to? Are you referring to the manufacturers setup?

Cheers.


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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Mtw fdu » Sun May 06, 2018 4:42 pm

Had my tech guy come an have a look at my setup. He couldn't find power to the relay on 1 of the modules. Went over it with a multi-meter and no numbers came up.

Something that I did not mention is that the relay has an extra piece on it with a small screw which can be adjusted from the front (outside) of the controller box with the cover on. Not sure what this is for or if it has vibrated loose or not as I haven't adjusted the screw setting at all. Any suggestions? Will try and post a pic of it later today.

Cheers.

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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Mtw fdu » Tue May 22, 2018 7:25 am

Had another tech guy come around and check over my controller. He did find the problem.

Turns out the controller board has a loose solder joint where the 2 main wires from the plasma machine connects to. It is cheaper to get a new board than repair the other 1. Have ordered a new board through ebay and will get my tech guy to install it. Until it gets here down under all I can do is wait.

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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Mtw fdu » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:49 am

After almost 2 months of waiting I finally got my new controller board. Have spoken to my tech guy and have booked it in to get done on Monday. Hopefully will have my machine back up and running by Tuesday.

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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Mtw fdu » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:01 am

Still have not yet got my machine running. I think it is a Mach 3 setup issue. My tech guy went with an external relay instead of going from the plasma through the 2 connections and back again. Instead of having 5 volts going through it, it now has 0.5 volts. Not sure if this changes anything in Mach 3 as I said but will keep going through and testing for a while yet before I change my tactics.

I will post a pic soon to show the difference of before and after.

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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Mtw fdu » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:23 pm

Having issues staying logged in as I am trying to post pics but cannot do so as this stage.

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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Mtw fdu » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:24 pm

Here they are.

The top pic shows the plasma wire come in and go straight to the relay and then back to the board (2 pink wires) then goes to the power board then back out to the plasma. Before it went straight to the board then back to the plasma.

Not sure if I need to change my Mach 3 settings as I also had to use a jumper previously to get the plasma to fire on the old board. Do I still need to do this as well?

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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Mtw fdu » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:50 am

Here is a pic of my Mach 3 general settings/configuration page. Does it look ok or do I need to do some adjusting.

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Mtw fdu » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:52 pm

Another day...and another problem.

Heard a small pop coming from the back of the controller and now I have the following happen.

These are the light on my controller which are on when I first switch it on.
Power on
Spindle off
Enable on
Z dr on
Z pu on
Y dr on
X pu on
X dr off
X pu off

Plug cable to computer

both X dr off
and X pu off

Then when software on (Mach 3) page comes up.
All above are off except power and Y dr.

Still no x and y axis movement or plasma firing. Z axis still operating as normal.

I have now replaced the new board with the old but have had the solder joints re soldered and it does the same.

My tech guy is even unsure what is happening.

Any suggestions please?

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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Mtw fdu » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:19 am

Just thought I let you guys know what has been happening.

I got my machine back from my tech guy and went to turn it on and as I got Mach 3 loaded in and pressed the red button the whole board blew up and now I have nothing working at all. Even the power board will not light up. I have also got the orange light on the plasma flashing as well so what is happening now I am unsure. Here is a pic.

I have contacted my tech guy and he will come and look at it tonight.

I AM NOT HAPPY :x :x :x :x :x



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Re: Powermax 45 stopped firing

Postby Mtw fdu » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:44 pm

Got a new power board and also a new usb/parallel interface and now have got my x and y axis moving again. Just need to play with settings in mach 3 to get the plasma to fire. Will try that this weekend coming.

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